Caroline Blazovsky: Oh my God. So we just got everything set up on Instagram. Everybody was liking us, it was going great. And all of a sudden I get this like bogus message, which I couldn't even interpret it if it was really Instagram, but it throws me into this rabbit hole where. Enter your passcode. You've been compromised.
You've basically tried to publicize your Instagram account with illegal activity. And I'm like, we did not do that. We don't do that at, around the house.
Eric Goranson : do that. Yep.
Caroline Blazovsky: not buy any kind of likes. That's not our gig though. Some of our competitors do, we'll have to say that.
Eric Goranson : Well, and I, and I will say, and we don't have any proof of this happen to us, but that is something that we've seen happen. Between like YouTube guys and other Instagram people is that.mpetitor and take them down. [:
Caroline Blazovsky: So we don't know, but we got this message and then it sent me into the rabbit hole and it says, enter your past to get your new passcode, to get back in and you do this, and then it sends you a link to like your email or your phone number or whatever. And then you try to get back in and it just sends you back to the message again.
So it's looking like we're going to have to have another around the house show and it's thanks. Cause that was our handle. But, um, You can still like us there, but
Eric Goranson : Yeah. Well, we'll get that. I think if we don't get this figured out in the next week, we're going to end up and of course, like anything, like we talked about in Saturday show, like it's like getting a hold of Google. Once you get ahold of somebody, it's tough to get ahold of somebody. So it's, it's an impossible one you'll message.
And three weeks later, they get back with you.out, man. We had a fun show [:
Caroline Blazovsky: Oh yeah, we did. I mean, Andrew. Guido is like an amazing guy building all of this wellness and all these incredible high he's trying to build healthy homes. And for any of you, there's no standard, right? We, we hear about LEED. We hear about the green building council, but in reality, there really isn't a healthy home standard and you can put anything into a home.
I mean, we have a few standards like led. We have radon, we have some asbestos standards, but overall you can put any products into a home and there's no regulation. So.
Eric Goranson : and I was going to say it's crazy. And asbestos is one of the worst ones because. Here in Portland, for instance, talk about a standard that needs to be figured out across the country here in Portland. For instance, if I take a load to my landfill, which is what they call Metro here, it's a Metro waste are the ones that have all the, the city Askren landfills.e something down there, if I [:
here's what happens if I have drywall from 1999, because I have a 1999 house I'm remodeling.idn't just outlaw asbestos in:
And nobody's going to say anything about it.
Caroline Blazovsky: Not good.
Eric Goranson : It's crazy.your contractor or builder, [:
They're just not. So you really have to be your own best advocate and also educate yourself on what's in products. And there's a lot of great people out there to help you. I mean, there's obviously people like me and Eric, but there's other great consultants and we'll have, I think in the future, we'll have them on the show to talk about.
What are good building products. How do you know the quality? How do you find something? Is it at the MSDS sheet or your safety data sheet? Like, what's the best way to know what's really in your products. And, and Andrew talks about that and he talks about this process of how they're trying to actually create healthy home and, or a wellness home.
Eric Goranson : absolutely. You know, and I know a lot of great builders. Uh, I've got one that we've had on before and I'll see if I can get him on again too. That's just, uh, easiest, a custom home builder. But for instance, with him, even though the standards aren't there, he doesn't put. oriented strand board in his houses.on the shed. They build out [:
Caroline Blazovsky: Well, and, and people don't realize with OSB, there's breathing problems with it. Um, moisture transfer issues. So when you build these houses and they're more energy efficient, and they're tighter, you save on energy costs, you save on, you know, how much you're paying for air conditioning and heat, and that's a positive, but the downside to it is that the moisture isn't able to get out of the house.
So you'll see a lot of this new construction with major moisture issues, just condensation things growing in the bathrooms and the toilet tank. Um, and having really bad mold problems. So, you know, there's, trade-offs to everything balanced, it's a ying and a yang with anything in life, but also with building construction.the, some of the more green. [:
Caroline Blazovsky: And the OSB side, like to defend them. Right. They will talk about that. They've drastically lowered formaldehyde levels in the OSB. Right. They've made the product better. They've made it able to withstand a lot of this weathering. Cause you know, when the OSB came out in the, I guess, Late eighties night, early nineties, that time when we really started to see OSB and building was, it may have even been later than that, where it was substantially used.
But, um, you know, it was Laden with formaldehyde. You could smell it. I mean, when they were putting it up on a house, when we were out in the field and we were looking at like, you know, a building site, oh my God. Dunk, and then the house stunk and it has a sweet kind of aroma to it. And, you know, it's just not healthy, but they've made a lot of changes.should actually have like an [:
Eric Goranson : Yeah. It's interesting. You know, it's interesting the problems you can have with some of this stuff at the same time nowadays, I think with, you know, some of the carpets and some of the flooring as higher formaldehyde outputs than even the, the OSP does now, you know, so you end up chasing that around the house.
A fair enough.
Caroline Blazovsky: Yeah, the carpet I'm actually believe it or not. They took formaldehyde out of the actual carpeting itself. So, but where, where it originates from or where it rears its ugly head is in the padding. So people go, oh, okay. Well the carpet is good. It's a nylon. No more formaldehyde. But then it's got the padding underneath and the padding can be highly toxic depending on what you put down.d only like, you know, tile, [:
I don't agree with that because what if you have a 65 year old person living in that. Um, and they're older and they've got, you know, mobility issues. You don't want someone falling, ever fall on to tile. You break a hip, you break a leg, right. So you have to look at the house and then you have to look at the person and sort of orchestrate what's going to be best for that person for wellness, because wellness is so individualized.
What Eric needs is not what I need. So that's where this building industry can get really kind of cool. Right? Like we could start building for like personal preference instead of just tracking.
Eric Goranson : And their styles, you know, like, you'll see in Southern California or Florida, you'll see homes built with ceramic tile everywhere. You know, it's just, it's in the living room, it's in the kitchen. It's, it's literally everywhere. And then you get up, you know, in the Northern states and people go, yeah, it's as too cold.
I don't want.
Caroline Blazovsky: And it is, I mean, you put a tile on the floor and it's like super cold, you know? And when you get the winter temperature, so your feet are freezing.son : That's why in my tile, [:
Caroline Blazovsky: Right in right. And flooring.
Eric Goranson : you know, but
Caroline Blazovsky: Now, do you have a law? So we have a lot of issues here because people put radiant flooring in and they use the water tube system with like the pecs. Right.
Eric Goranson : oh yeah. Now mine is electric.
Caroline Blazovsky: so, yeah, so we have a lot of people who go with these pec systems. And let me tell you, you break one of those tubes under there with.hat was like what, like maybe:
Eric Goranson : Well, the problem was back then, they were using kind of the early version of packs. You know what I mean? Where they had the defective crimp ring system back in the day and the fittings and the crimp rings were failing. And so you had that?
nowadays, the PEX is so good that you just don't have to worry about those things happening.. Things just doesn't exist. [:
Caroline Blazovsky: You don't have steam.
Eric Goranson : boilers are rare. can say in my last 10 years of remodeling homes, I've probably seen one or two boilers.
Caroline Blazovsky: Now, why is that? Because you think in the Northwest, I mean, you've got colder temperatures. I mean, you're, you're very, your climate is very similar to the Northeast. I mean, it is, you know, we kind of have run the same temperatures. You're a little cooler, a lot more rain, but typically I would feel. That you would have more hot water baseboard systems there, but I mean, California, you know, Southern California.
No, no, no, of course not. But, but you I'm surprised that they don't haveexpensive to use compared to [:
I see that in old homes, that's still working. It's it's it's one out of a hundred.u know, like, especially for [:
I mean, do you have a lot
Eric Goranson : a lot of baseboard electric.
heat in older homes and homes that are more apartments. I bet you, in my metropolitan area here that 60 to 70% of the apartments are baseboard or forced air room heat,
Caroline Blazovsky: Are you running? Are you running gas or heat pump in your house
Eric Goranson : My house, I've got a gas furnace and of course, electric AC.
Caroline Blazovsky: so you, so you are running natural gas, so you're running for fair system.
Eric Goranson : Yep. I'm running that. Um, and I like the heat. I just love the heat of natural gas. I love that natural warmth to me. I can tell the difference and I would rather have it.I, so for me, I prefer like [:
So I love
Eric Goranson : see, I like, I like the air filtration of being a healthy home person, myself. I like the filtration of the air.
Caroline Blazovsky: Yeah, but the thing is when you, when you have, I'm going to disagree with you because when you have a baseboard system, you don't have as much debris. Being expelled, pushed through the system to have to filter. So what happens is it's you don't, you know, that foresight or push throws, dander, dust, mites, mold, all that stuff into the air.
And then of course your ducks can become a contaminated mess of, you know, if you're not maintaining it, that just gets shoved out.from my garage and I'm like, [:
We've talked about it before,
Caroline Blazovsky: You have three now, right?
Eric Goranson : yeah, we got Three. So, and so I reached down to my phone phone. I hit on, on my heating and cooling system and just turn the fan on medium for about three hours. Smells gone because I have, I have all the different, you know, multiple systems in there and Julie came home four hours later and goes, oh wow.
The house smelled so much better. What'd you
Caroline Blazovsky: It was clean.
Eric Goranson : Yep.
Caroline Blazovsky: more wet book.
Eric Goranson : well, I just, I, I just turned on the fan and let the system clean the air,
Caroline Blazovsky: Yeah, well that, well you have, I mean, look, if you just had a traditional force, hot air system, which a lot of my clients do and they put in a typical blue, right? The blue basketball filter that catches nothing, but Eric Scott, he's got air scrubbers. He has UV light. He has some carbon. So he's got, you know, if you're going to have forced air.That's the [:
You have to do duct cleaning. Like if you have pets like Eric, you really should be doing it every one to two years. Um,
Eric Goranson : so funny, uh, on my house here when, because my system is so complex because there's multiple computers and stuff in it, and it's a variable speed system. So my duct system, unfortunately, when we hit, set up, got cleaned because as soon as we turned it on, What that carrier infinity system does, is it actually turns on a high and then it measures the back pressure in the system and it balances the system automatically between the.
Caroline Blazovsky: That's cool.floor. The metal vent covers [:
It forced out every little bit of debris out of that system. All at once. It was a
Caroline Blazovsky: I wonder what CFM you I'm going on in there? Like when we send ducklings, when we send duct cleaning companies in, like, you want to go with a NACA certified DHEC company and that's NAD CA don't go with like a guy that shows up and says, Hey, 99 95, it's a coupon. We'll come clean your ducks. And they.
Eric Goranson : You're so right. And I actually, I also prefer to have that duct cleaning company that's certified to have them associated with a heating And cooling company so that, that they know that they.
go, Ooh, you've got a problem here. Let's get our guy over here to fix it.omes before, like if someone [:
Right. That's the first thing, the second thing is, guess what I want to look see in those ducks? I want to know what's actually going on in there. That's like a colonoscopy. It's like, if I come over to your house and I do a colonoscopy of your house, I want to know the intricacies of your building structure.
So I have companies that work with me and I say, call them, have them come stick a camera in your system. And then we'll know exactly how clean are your docs. What's going on. That's like the heart and lungs. Your S
Eric Goranson : See, I noticed it. My system came back and told me that I have 9% air loss in my duct system.
Caroline Blazovsky: Yeah,
Eric Goranson : It knows that there's 9% of air loss in leaky joints in the system of the house.
Caroline Blazovsky: that's so cool.uff, all those air leaks are [:
Go in and actually without turn open drywall to fix it, but I could go through and do Aero seal or one of those things where it uses that, that glue to, to clean that up.
So I know you haven't really looked into that stuff much, but we were talking about it, but I could go through and do that. That would gain me another 9%.
But the funny thing is with that system is that it already accounted for it. So it's, it has accounted for that. So I don't know if I'm going to have that much of a gain because it's. You know, putting that extra umph in it to account for that air loss.
Caroline Blazovsky: I want to
Eric Goranson : already working correctly.
Caroline Blazovsky: I want to come over and put a camera in your ducts. I'm going to see
Eric Goranson : There we go.
Caroline Blazovsky: aren't do colonoscopy in your house.
Eric Goranson : I think it already did. Or at least let's put it this way. It did the, by putting The system in and blowing it all out. I'll call that the colonoscopy
Caroline Blazovsky: The colon cleanse.
Eric Goranson : It's the cleanse.
Caroline Blazovsky: Eric's had the cleanse. Now we need to, now we need to go with the scope and seen : It's yep. Now it's ready [:
Caroline Blazovsky: But like, wait, what happened to food? These guys usually talk about food. Now they're talking about colonoscopy and by the way, if you're 50 and over do get your colonoscopy just for wellness, right? It's time. So if
Eric Goranson : Yep. I got my clean Bella health and I'm 50 So, uh, make sure you do the same,
Caroline Blazovsky: yeah, no.
Eric Goranson : same out there. We need all 7 you listeners out there. So we gotta have everyone you'll listen to the show. So I'll say we can't make it six. That's a big drop in listeners. So please, we want to keep all seven you out there.
Now we're talking to you. We're talking to you.
Caroline Blazovsky: We've got new stuff coming up
Eric Goranson : we do, we got new stuff coming up. All right. I'm Eric G
Caroline Blazovsky: and I'm Caroline B
Eric Goranson : and you've been listening to around the
Caroline Blazovsky: the house.Eric Goranson : [:
Caroline Blazovsky : We're giving these guys like everything they need to know about a house in an hour. That's why we have to bring them like secondary entertainment. Like we've got, we have got musical guests coming up though. We're, we've got some things in the pipeline guys. Like we're just not home improvement though. We can give you everything in a matter of a minute.
Eric Goranson : can give you everything you want. Oh, I'm coding lyrics. How do you know the names? The people you can find? Oh, sorry.
See, there we go. We're getting off into that rant again. Well,s in an hour and then we can [:
Eric Goranson : Absolutely. You know, that's the good part.
Caroline Blazovsky : Let's just get her done. Like, just get the houses fixed so we can party.
Eric Goranson : Got it.
Caroline Blazovsky : Well, that's an interesting party sound. Maybe that's your party. I don't know what that steam shower you got
Eric Goranson : Oh, yeah, there we go.
Caroline Blazovsky : party and Eric's bathroom
Eric Goranson : Exactly.
Caroline Blazovsky : passing out without the lip. We can just drag them in.
Eric Goranson : Drag me in there. You got it. You got it. Well, we were talking about duct cleaning, one of the biggest things that that people forget to do. And, and this was funny, you brought this up during the break and it's so funny because probably four years ago I was overdoing one of our local TV segments.
The host of the morning show, I was pitching ideas to them about to do a couple of DIY segments. And she goes, yeah. You know, I haven't changed my filter in probably two years.sky : She's like an amateur. [:
and then they end up at my doorstep. I have auto immune disease. I have allergies. My kid can't go to school. Well, let's just change your filters people. I mean, it's really that simple.
Eric Goranson : So, let's, let's talk about this. And it's one of those things that, you know, every system has its own filter. So, you need to look and see what you got. There’re the one-inch filters. There's the, three-inch the four-inch, there's the custom ones that you have to order from the heating and cooling company.
There's lots of different ones, but
Caroline Blazovsky : There's big cartridges. What we call like a four-inch cartridge media filter that you kind of slide out. It's a big looking, almost looks like an accordion when you pull this sucker out,
Eric Goranson : Yeah, mine's big like that. It's got electronic pieces on it with with carbon that is negatively charged. So it's about a 60 or $70 filter at my house. So it's an expensive one,have, I mean, talk filters, [:
You have to make sure that you're changing filters in. How about your downdrafts, like for your you know, or like I have a washable filter. What do you have in your stove? Do you have a, or you have an updraft.
Eric Goranson : Yeah. I have a regular commercial style, but I have the commercial style. Like, you'd see, in a restaurant, I have the big metal, like V pieces of metal where it drains off into its own little thing. So it's a very much a
Caroline Blazovsky : there or no.
Eric Goranson : Yeah, it's a filter. But at what it does is it comes up through the, through the metal.
There's not a mesh to it, but it's got the pieces of metal that they grease sticks to as it goes through. And then it runs down.
Caroline Blazovksy : I hear something.
Eric Goranson : That's my dogs in the background. They're playing puppies. We were talking about dogs earlier and that's them out there. They're they're playing around inside the house.
Usually that means one has a toy. The other one wants,to change the filter in the [:
Eric Goranson : he just took them in the dishwasher. They're
Caroline Blazovsky : yeah. Okay. But then again, maintenance. So there are a lot of filters in the house that you forget that You need to make.
Eric Goranson : How about the two filters that are probably in your car too? You've got the one that
Caroline Blazovsky : Oh,
Eric Goranson : the engine and then you have the in-cabin filter.
Caroline Blazovsky : yeah. I just changed. I'm a freak about the in cabin filter. I actually change it frequently and it's disgusting. I mean, it gets really nasty.
Eric Goranson : Yeah. So many people go, oh my, my air conditioning in my car, quit working. Do you change the in-cabin filter? The what? So that's, that's so common that it gets to get forgotten
Caroline Blazovsky : No, that is huge. and.
you get a lot of pollen and debris that comes in, right. Particularly, especially from the road. And then also like a lot of cars get moldy and that's a bad thing. Like they get wet or they have leaks and they're never right after that. So you do have to monitor your cars, just like you monitor your house.
It's very similar.cent. And that [:
Caroline Blazovsky : Oh, you talking about, we're talking about HVAC. now. Rebecca HVAC. Yeah. Yeah.
Eric Goranson : that one is filter the cheap one. That's got just the meshy kind
Caroline Blazovsky : The blue.
Eric Goranson : mesh the blue.
Caroline Blazovsky : call it the bowling ball, catcher. That thing, like if you see blue mash run the other way, that thing could literally Eric it throws a bowling ball into it. And basically, it's going through
Eric Goranson : Absolutely. It's going right through and you got a heck of a mess because there's not, it's not getting dust. I mean, those will catch dust after they have to get dirty first
Caroline Blazovsky : right. They work
Eric Goranson : stacking up.
Caroline Blazovsky : Well, that's interesting. Talk about that a little bit filters. Actually, when they get a little dirtier, they actually work, their efficiency goes up. I mean, you don't want it like 10 year dirty, but you know, a month dirty, it actually increases the efficiency of the filter. So it helps you out a little bit.Goranson : It actually grabs [:
Caroline Blazovsky : You want to give him a Merv rating? Oh, what's his Murph. He's a Merv to Erickson. Merv 10.
Eric Goranson : Oh, he's a 10 on your work scale.
Caroline Blazovsky : But there is a murder 15, you could go to Murphy and That's a whole other
Eric Goranson : a whole new scale at that point.. Get that. We took building [:
Eric Goranson : It's groovy,
but that's the thing when you're talking about this stuff, you know, you gotta, you want to have something that's actually gonna filter the junk out of the air and you know, all summer long where
Caroline Blazovsky : Oh, my God. He just said filter junk.
Eric Goranson : I filter drug. Oh no, I've got to come back to that.
Caroline Blazovsky : Merv ratings on filters are sexy. That's some bad beat. I like
Eric Goranson : There we go. There we go. See more grew in and around the house. So.'t want to slow up. So think [:
You can't do that because what happens if your furnace isn't allocated for that, you're going to slow up. Think about what's going to happen. It's going to slow up your CFM. So I'll let Eric explain it to you. Like, cause he's got a big filter, but a system can accommodate.
Eric Goranson : So it's like, it's like going to the, to the dairy queen and getting yourself a shake, but you don't get the shake straw. You get the little tiny straw, and now you're trying to drink that. Awesome. Shake through the little tiny straw doesn't work well, and you don't get the airflow. And now you're really putting some stress on that fan because it's having to work much harder to push it through that.
So you have to make sure that that filter works with your system.m can tolerate. So you don't [:
You have dogs, people running around that thing may get dirty.
Eric Goranson : we got around to break. I was changing mine with the fires last year, about every three weeks on my old
Caroline Blazovsky : example, perfect example.
Eric Goranson : all the smokes. So when we come back, we'll talk more about getting your house ready for fall. We'll do that just as soon as a round ass returns.Eric Goranson : [:
Caroline Blazovsky : Yeah. So talk about windows. Windows are a big one.rames, any blinds, that kind [:
Caroline Blazovsky : aren't you a little Mary made you want to come home?
Eric Goranson : But
Caroline Blazovsky : I actually like it. I put music on and I take the screwdriver and I wrap it up in like towel. You can get all the crevices and all the NASA gets. I like it. It's kind of
Eric Goranson : Yeah. And so it's really cool to go in and just get that cleaned up because, I like it. I like having the windows open, so I see all that stuff a lot, and then speaking of windows open, if you open that window, those windows screens get nasty.
Caroline Blazovsky : Oh man, you need to, if you just take a damn paper towel or whatever you want to wipe it with and you just wipe it down the screen, you'll see this black NASA just comes in and that gets in your indoor air.se screens up outside, and I [:
Caroline Blazovsky : no. And that's why, like, if you open up your windows, that just comes in. And so that's like to having a healthy home, that is a huge thing. Is cleaning the windows screens. We forget about them. People just don't, they do the whole window and they forget to wipe down the screen. And that's where all the dirt comes through.
It's exactly. It's like a.
Eric Goranson : And the other thing I recommend to on the outside of the home this time of year is I just did it this last weekend. I jumped up on because again, we've been dry. So I have all these for trees around here that had the little pine needles. So my gutters get loaded up. I've been cleaning gutters about every three weeks on my house right now because of the stuff that lands on my roof, my neighbor, who has all the high-end gutter guard, she still has to go up there and clean them.
Caroline Blazovsky : Yeah, those pine needles. And then do you have a lot of set? Like you have to worry about your cars getting sappy. That's what I have like.Eric Goranson : I'll get SAP [:
Caroline Blazovsky : Yeah, it gets,
Eric Goranson : bugs going after it. Yeah. I've had some big two years ago we had drops a PSAP down that were, we had something going after the tree and it was like, literally like drops of water, but it was SAP and I, I
Caroline Blazovsky : that is the worst SAP on your car is like, there's certain things I don't like to clean and I'm pretty much like the cleaning fairy, but that's just,
Eric Goranson : Ah, it's horrible. It's horrible on it. Actually, my truck, I've got to go out here after we're done recording the show. I have one spot on the windshield of my truck. that's on there of SAP. One spot, no outs on the truck and it dropped out of the tree last week. And every time my windshield wiper hits it, it jacks it up. Cause you know, you get the streak in the middle of the window, horrible. Sohe house? Like the thing you [:
Eric Goranson : There are two things that are tied for
Caroline Blazovsky : Oh, I'm so interested. I can't wait.
Eric Goranson : cleaning up dog poop, and the dog area is number one.
Caroline Blazovsky : Even with a pooper scoop. It's not like, you know, that thing that just.
Eric Goranson : I don't have the strongest stomach for that. So because, you know, I have that sensitive nose. We've talked about that, right. That, you know, I can walk in and sense that that's where that superpower is horrible because it's like you're drowning in it, you know?
And so that's not awesome. The other thing I don't like, and it doesn't really gross me out as much, but as if you have to go in and do plumbing work and you're taking out the trash. You know that trap where it comes out of the sink and all the nastiness in there. And you're cleaning that out. That's not my favorite either.
Those are probably the two,take that off and I clean it [:
That's a worst.
Eric Goranson : are two of my, my least favorite. I'm going to say it's the cleaning up the dog poo is one. And number two is going to be the the trap. What is yours?
Caroline Blazovsky : Basement, like when the basement floods, like when you get any kind of water damage, forget it. I went through that so much the last couple of weeks, but it really is my pet peeve because you get everything all nice and organized and here comes the mud and the sludge and the, you got to clean the shop back then you got to put new filters on, then you got to clean it again.
And so I would say like doing any kind of water cleanup. Hence, I do it for a career, but it's still like when it happens in
Eric Goranson : but you're not putting the gloves on for the career. You're coming in and saying, Hey, you got to get this cleaned up.
Caroline Blazovsky : I used to though that I was my trade, I was a certified molder mediator first and foremost, before I was anything.
Eric Goranson : Yeah. But where you w I guess that's the question I was going to ask. did.you [:
Caroline Blazovsky : yeah, no, I was doing it. That was like the beginning of my career. I was doing actual testing and cleanup.
Eric Goranson : Yeah, brutal,
Caroline Blazovsky : Yeah, who was who it was, but
Eric Goranson : yeah.
that's the other thing that, besides the gutter, clean up and that kind of stuff, always good this time of year when you've got a nice dry streak of a couple of days, make sure that you've got all that caulking done on the outside of your house. Make sure that that caulking is done.
Make sure that you don't have any water issues. My house it's even more. Important because I just painted my house. So that's one of those things that I know it's pretty good. I've got one other area that I need to go back and check, but that caulking is key because that is what's keeping the water, the air, the bugs, the past out of your house,
Caroline Blazovsky : Yeah. Pass like mice, come in. Now. This is the time of year. When you start to see those critters making their way in.
Eric Goranson : spiders.
Caroline Blazovsky : about rats, no member ofc Goranson : Oh, yeah. We're [:
Caroline Blazovsky : All right. This is the fastest rat story over here. So I was telling Eric today, I used to live on the upper east side in New York city. And so I used to dine. It was like a Jamaican. What would you call that? Like a jerk chicken, kinder
Eric Goranson : that stuff.
Caroline Blazovsky : cuisine. So we were eating in a place up on the upper east. And I was with a bunch of colleagues from work.
This was years and years ago and I was kicking something under the table and I said, oh, I'm sorry. I must be kicking your purse. And the girl sitting at the table looks at me and she goes, I didn't bring a purse. I don't have a purse. I'm like, well, there's something under the table. I'm kicking it. And I go, I'm like, what is that?
And back then, we didn't have flashlights on our phones and stuff. Right. You know, we'd have a phone. Like, it was just whatever. So I look under and I'm like, there's something there. And I kick it out with my foot and it said giant dead rat, like right
Eric Goranson : one of the. big warf frats or water rats or whatever, right.
Caroline Blazovsky : Well, it was nasty. So Eric and I were talking about rats and he has some rat stories too.
Like they're just foul.nd, we had a, I worked in a, [:
I mean, the elevator was so big. You could put, you could take a car and pull it in the elevator. So it was one of those kind of big elevators. And yet. Rats. It would lumber around that were the size of small cats
Caroline Blazovsky : Disgusting .dn't know. It hindsight being:
Caroline Blazovsky : But regardless fall is the time brat. If you live in the cities, the more built up Metro areas, you're going to be having some rad exposure. You're going to have mice coming in. So block those holes up, like Eric saying, you know, a little copper to some kind of copper mesh keeps them out. They don't seem to like deep.m using now, which is really [:
Caroline Blazovsky : Really.
Eric Goranson : and they won't eat it. And so it's a Pestblock spray foam now. So you can go in with the Pestblock spray foam, it gives you an insulating power and then as well, it gives you the rodent blocking power too.
So they won't come dig through that.
Caroline Blazovsky : Do you smell it like it does it have a pepper smell to it or does it just like it's
Eric Goranson : It's just impregnated in the product and whatever. You're only using a little bit of it So it's not Like, it's a
Caroline Blazovsky : yeah. It's not like you're, you guys are going in like,
Eric Goranson : spraying the whole house with it. But yeah, you're trying to fill a.
hole and around a pipe or something like that, or, or where the cable guy drew some big holes in the side of your house or something like that, that kind of stuff.he garage doors and stuff to [:
Well, Caroline, we are out of time. That's it for this episode again, I'm Eric G
Caroline Blazovsky : And I'm Caroline B
Eric Goranson : and you've been listening to around the
Caroline Blazovsky : the house.