Episode 1409
Bait and Switch on Kitchen Cabinetry? Plus the secrets of lumber grading and how its changed
We take a look at a company that has been alleged to have sold maple cabinetry in the US that was actually birch. Then we dive into the new lumber grading and how that can mean you are going to get better lumber at the lumberyard! All this and MORE in the mid-week special!
For more information on the lumber grading: https://www.roseburg.com/news-product/what-does-no-prior-selects-mean-for-your-lumber/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=social%20post&utm_campaign=Lumber%202022
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Transcript
[00:00:23] Intro: This is around the house.
[:[00:00:49] Eric Goranson: If you out there have gotten cabinets where you had a house built and, uh, j and k cabinetry. Had provided you with those cabinets. [00:01:00] This one you might wanna pay attention to, or if you're a builder remodeler and you've been using j and k cabinetry, this is something that's kind of interesting. So I had an attorney reach out to me here this last week cuz uh, well first off, we'll set the record straight on that.
[:[00:01:46] Eric Goranson: Wonder what the story is on that. So I, I had a quick conversation with this attorney and, uh, he came back with this and he sent me over, uh, this big detail page, which was kind of hard to find. [00:02:00] It is the, uh, United States Court of Internal Trade, and it's this court case number 2109. , and it's kind of interesting because this is where cabins to go kind of gets brought into this as well.
[:[00:02:41] Eric Goranson: Okay? So there had been this big thing on tariffs and cabinet dumping and stuff from these, uh, Chinese cabinet companies into the us. They didn't actually rule so much on this because they said that was more for. Civil [00:03:00] litigation, but in their findings to see if these companies were dumping, and I'll say dumping cuz that's what they said they were doing cabinetry at Below cost into the United States.
[:[00:03:33] Eric Goranson: If you're going to, you know, if you're gonna be staining it, not so much if you're gonna be painting it. Yeah, it works. Okay. And Birch also has, you know, it has this basic greenness to it sometime, which you have to be careful with. Let's dive into this for just a second, because, uh, I think it's something if you have j and k cabinets or even cabinets to go, cabinets that were manufactured and [00:04:00] sold to you as Maple looks like there's a decent chance that that could be birch, which means, you know, that could have been deceptive to you.
[:[00:04:28] Eric Goranson: And basically, if you read through this to paraphrase it, they said, Wait a minute, there's a whole bunch of birch coming in the back door, and you got a bunch of maple coming out the front door. And they went, Well, yeah, they're, they're kind of close. Of course, the federal government went, no. So that's the interesting part of this, and I think that's fascinating, is that they didn't want to, as in they as in the federal government, didn't want to get involved in the deceptive part of this because they said, Well, [00:05:00] that's for the attorneys and, and class action lawsuits and that stuff kind of stuff to go after.
[:[00:05:32] Eric Goranson: Or you can send something over to Twitter as well over there at uh, and just send me an instant message over there. But I'd be curious to see if you actually have Maple or if you've got Birch. Because there could be something there for you. So just something to keep an eye on, on. There's a lot more to this gonna be coming out over the next year or two.
[:[00:06:14] Eric Goranson: So we'll see what happens with all of that. But, uh, if you do have anything, any knowledge of that or used to work for those guys, uh, gimme a call. I'm kind of doing some research on it, and it's my little research project for right now. And this is gonna be, uh, a little more interesting stuff and, uh, this is a, uh, interesting court case to follow.
[:[00:06:56] Eric Goranson: Have any issues to me in my one that I [00:07:00] have. So I have version one. This looks like this is version two, and this is the 27 67 M 18 heavy duty cordless impact wrench. It looks like they came up reading through this story that they have a new design and there have been reports now of failure of some of the new design parts that were in.
[:[00:07:41] Eric Goranson: And, uh, the unit has been failing for certain people. So not gonna get into the details of the planet gears and all those different things, but, uh, it looks like that there could be an issue there where things might be coming apart. So something to keep an eye on. Milwaukee says they're taken it very seriously and they're [00:08:00] investigating it, which I know they will.
[:[00:08:22] Eric Goranson: If anyone in your audience has experienced Disfat dissatisfaction, please send 'em our way. They can return the tool to Milwaukee for repair, utilizing their e-service portal. and, uh, they can have it taken a look by Milwaukee technicians to see if it's covered into the warranty. And that way you can determine, you know, what's covered, what's not.
[:[00:08:59] Eric Goranson: Uh, [00:09:00] they're saying that, uh, if you have the model 27 67 with the serial numbers starting with H 96 B, keep your receipt. It looks like the issue might only affect some, but not all rev B models. So take a peek at that and make sure that you've got that receipt. Um, Milwaukee, of course, I think we'll stand behind this pretty well.
[:[00:09:39] Eric Goranson: You might have seen him on Instagram. YouTube. He builds, he does woodworking, leather working. He builds so many different things out there from big tables to. Built in bookcases that move to leather, to chain mail to lots of different things. It's gonna be a great show about a [00:10:00] builder out there that's doing a lot.
[:[00:10:22] Eric Goranson: So that is going to be a huge show coming up on Saturday that you don't wanna miss. Now, I do wanna say I'm very happy about lumber prices going down now. Not all lumber prices are down, and I think they still have a long way to go. As Dr. Dex will be telling you in this weekend, show, him and I were talking and we bring up the fact that.
[:[00:11:04] Eric Goranson: So when you go down to the lumber yard or the hardware store to go buy some two by forges or something, it'll say on there what the stamp is of what the lumber is graded. Now what's interesting is that lumber really doesn't have an appearance grade. It's not really being graded on visual attractiveness, it's actually by strength.
[:[00:11:54] Eric Goranson: You know, for instance, right now, Douglas for Lumber is graded on a scale of one to four, [00:12:00] with one being the highest grade, and then in many cases, lumbers also rated with a number of by like number one or number two, and better. And number two and better just means that it could be number two and number one pieces of lumber within that.
[:[00:12:37] Eric Goranson: So that's kind of interesting. So if you wanna get into appearance grade stuff, that's where you gotta get into other stuff like that where it's created on appearance, not on lumber. Now they've made some changes now, which is kind of interesting to what they call prior select. And you're like, What is prior Select?
[:[00:13:32] Eric Goranson: So no prior select units haven't been sorted through and high graded, and they still retain the, you know, kind of like full spectrum of material that falls into a grade no matter how. Look, nice it looks. So what this is gonna do is when you're looking at a, a, you know, a rack of lumber out there, you're gonna be able to see that when it says nps.
[:[00:14:19] Eric Goranson: Lumber is inside that bunk that you're gonna get a natural selection of what goes in there versus somebody going through and going, Oh, that's pretty, that's pretty, that's pretty. And you getting definitely more twos than you would out of a two and better since it's been hydrated. So something to think about and, uh, it's something that not all mills are gonna do, but, uh, I think it's gonna help clear.
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